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Station bones are human

Remains are more than 50 years old
By LANCE HOLDFORTH, Special to the Examiner

The coroner has determined that bones found in the crawl space of the century-old Allandale train station are human.

Barrie police Det. Robert McLeod said the bones are more than 50 years, meaning it’s no longer a police investigation. The case now falls under the Cemetery Act.

“Once they’re over 50 years old, it’s treated as a cemetery and they are over 50 years old according to the expert,” McLeod said. “It looks like some kind of burial of some sort, which is the same as if you were digging up your swimming pool in the backyard and come across it.”

The City of Barrie will take over the investigation.

The Lakeshore Drive site’s restoration expert found the bones just under the sandy surface against the back wall while preparing the building for concrete pouring on Monday.

The person’s cause of death and gender haven’t been determined, but McLeod says the remains are in one area of the crawl space, which could mean there are more bones buried beneath.

“They’re pieces of bones, so the entire skeleton is possibly there, but we won’t know that until the archeologist goes in and starts doing their dusting and sifting,” he said. “They’re not scattered. They’re all within a small area, but it’s not like they uncovered a skeleton sitting there.”

The original station was built in 1853, but the remains were found in the basement of a 1905 addition.

Following several of years of vacancy, the station buildings are being refurbished. However, construction has been halted in the basement, which is now considered an archeological site.

“The City of Barrie will now have the archeologist come in and do their process they should be able to answer more questions at that time,” McLeod said.

Stan Mclean is no stranger to the railroad, having worked in the Allandale yard of the train station for more than 25 years.

“I started working there in ’51,” he said. “I can’t remember anything bad happening when I was there, but it was really busy. It was really going.”

Mclean said the train station was a hub for local travel at the time the bones are dated, but added he thought it was an aboriginal burial site.

“I just thought it was some old Indian bones, but I never thought much about until I heard they were human,” he said. “I thought they would be about 100 years old.”

The area where the bones were found will remain part of the investigation while restorations continue to the rest of the building, but Mclean says he remembers the building in its original form.

“That (building where bones were found) used to be an office building when I was around. I think it was a telegraph department when I started,” he said. “There’s a basement you can get in from a door on the outside on the north side of the building. I’ve only been in there once or twice.”

The Ministry of Consumer Services, which oversees cemeteries in the province, requested the city hire archeologists to proceed with the investigation to determine if the bones are native or non-native.

The city hired AMICK Consultants, which has offices in Port McNicoll and London, Ont.

McLeod said if signs of foul play do arise, a full investigation would be launched, but he thinks that’s unlikely.

news@thebarrieexaminer.com



Allandale land for sale in the fall

Simcoe Article: Allandale land for sale in the fall.

Janis Ramsay, jramsay@simcoe.com

BARRIE – The Allandale station lands will be up for sale this fall.
The value of the land has previously been estimated at $3 million, and any developer that buys it will have to pay a further $1.8 million for improvements to the land.
General manager of infrastructure, development and culture Richard Forward said whoever buys the land should pay an extra $1.8 million for the tunnel underpass from Gowan onto the property and for the Gowan Street roadwork and sewer repairs.
“It’s not uncommon for the city to request the developer to pay for services,” Forward said. “We are not asking the developer to pay for the Gowan Street road works, we are asking the developer to pay for internal road works to the site that benefit development on the site.”
He said Park Place developer North American Development Group is paying for “the internal servicing improvements, (and) they are also paying for external road works to the site.”
Ward 10 Coun. Alex Nuttall, however, didn’t think it was fair to ask a developer to pay $1.8 million extra for roadwork and the GO Train underpass by Gowan Street.
“To charge a developer for the underpass, used by the provincial government’s GO Transit users, seems wrong to me,” said Nuttall. “And to charge a developer for roads that are being used by the city, the development, GO and eventually Re/Max seems wrong to me. Everyone should pair a fair share and not a penny more or less.”
Forward said the underpass is costing the city $3 million to build, and the developer is only being asked to pay $850,000 towards it. Forward also thought a $950,000 bill for Gowan Street road repairs was appropriate to hand to a developer.
Nevertheless, Nuttall said it was unfortunate council couldn’t agree to make a counter offer to The Correct Group of Companies, a developer that has spent three years working on a proposal for the land.
“We’ve invested three years on debate and to say we need more time is incorrect,” Nuttall said. “Time is passing by, along with tax money we could’ve earned.”
As Nuttall tried to nix the $950,000 roadwork bill and drop the underpass payment to $425,000, he said: “I’m very tired of having project after project here, then (we’re) throwing someone to the curb and three years later we still have nothing.”
“We don’t have a good record with purchase of sales,” he said.
Council disagreed with Nuttall, though, and wanted to see any future developer cough up more cash for the site.
“Developers are big boys and understand what they’re getting into,” said Ward 7 Coun. John Brassard. “We’re asking them to pay for something they normally pay for.”
And while Ward 2 Coun. Lynn Strachan and Ward 6 Coun. Michael Prowse wanted to see the property up for sale, they agreed there should be opportunities for something different.
Council had considered splitting the land into four parcels and selling them individually, but agreed to sell the land to only one developer.
“We’ve diluted this worse and worse and have gone from something dynamic and new to something that’s not particularly exciting,” said Prowse.
Mayor Jeff Lehman told council it was time to get moving on something, and council passed the motion to put the land up for sale.



Stay on track with community

Stay on track with community

An open letter to Barrie City Council regarding Allandale Station

Dear Mayor and Councillors,

In November 2009, the Barrie Arts and Culture Council endorsed the Allandale Village Development Community Consultation Report presented to City Council by SOLUTIONSink. City Council’s motion to divide the Allandale Station lands into multiple parcels, and rezone at least one parcel, places the community-driven vision for a Creative Allandale at risk.

This vision is not the product of one consultant, but the result of public consultation. The level of public input on this project has been exemplary, and is perhaps unprecedented in the City of Barrie. The retention of the original Station, and lands to the north, in City hands for community and cultural use is a direct result of this input.

But greater than that, this process has changed the expectations of residents. What began as a divisive debate was transformed into community building. Along with the Historic Neighbhourhoods Strategy, the Allandale consultations fostered thoughtful discussion, re-imagining, cooperation and consensus. The Report successfully distilled disparate views and ideas into community expression.

This redevelopment should not settle for capturing a snapshot of who we are now, but strive to honour the past, respect the present, and be flexible enough to propel us forward for decades to come. With the redevelopment of Centennial/Bradford connecting the Station to Uptown, Allandale is the southern anchor for the revitalization of our urban core.

Council’s wisdom to proceed with the Station restoration and the pursuit of the Allandale Waterfront GO will aid this historic village, but it appears that many developers are waiting. If the Station lands redevelopment is focused, it will catalyze redevelopment and intensification in the surrounding area.

With ample properties in the area already zoned for taller buildings, there is no need to alter building heights on the railway lands. Such a change would dwarf the original Station, and is not in keeping with the heritage nature of this development.

The Barrie Arts and Culture Council is concerned that the community’s vision for a vibrant, creative, live/work redevelopment will be lost in a mix of multiple developers. Who will oversee the vision, and how would it be realized in a piecemeal and fragmented manner?

Council’s Strategic Plan presents new policies and initiatives to ensure that our City develops a reputation for innovative urban renewal and smart growth planning. But it remains unclear why Council wishes to divide the lands, and perhaps the community’s vision along with it. Compliance with one developer is challenge enough. Allandale Station is too unique to risk.

It is the recommendation of the Barrie Arts and Culture Council that the Allandale Station lands be developed together in a cohesive manner, that the public input in the Allandale Village Development Community Consultation Report play a lead role in the City’s and developer’s plans, and that, as per the Report, no portion of the lands be rezoned to allow buildings above five stories.

On behalf of the Barrie Arts and Culture Council,

damian lopes

Allandale Public Consultation.pdf Download this file



Scrap Metal Collection at Unity

A Message from Unity Christian High School

Allandale friends and neighbours:

We all probably have some scrap metal or other unused but recyclable material around our homes, and we know it’s time to get rid of it. UNITY has the solution! Bring your stuff here!

From Thursday, April 21, through Monday, May 2, there will be a large trailer at the school (far side/west side parking lot) that will be accepting any and all of these recyclable materials:

  • all aluminum (cans, siding, pie plates, aluminum windows and doors, ladders, and so forth),
  • stainless steel (dryer vent hoses, old wheel hubs, Tonka toys, pots and pans and so forth),
  • copper (wire, extension cords, pipe, Christmas lights and so forth),
  • nuts and bolts,
  • electronic waste (CPUs, desktops, TVs of any technology, monitors, printers and peripherals, cables, electronic keyboards, and so forth).

We have the trailer from MID-WEST METALS of Creemore, and they are looking forward to hauling back a full load! (They will not accept propane tanks, fridges, freezers nor tires.)

The trailer will be open throughout the school day (locked after school hours).

If you have any questions, you are welcome to call the school: 792-6915.

In advance, we thank you very much.

Peter Bulthuis, principal
Unity Christian High School
25 Burton Ave
Barrie, ON L4N 2R3
Ph: (705) 792-6915
Fax: (705) 792-2389



Allandale Spring into Clean

The Allandale Neighbourhood Association is calling upon all residents to come and help reduce the litter in our community.

The City of Barrie’s Spring Into Clean will be taking place on:

Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 10:00am
Shear Park, Holgate Street

Interested volunteers should contact Kam Holland at naisbittk@yahoo.ca or 705-309-5803.

Come out and be a strong supporter of your neighbourhood.

Let’s keep Allandale clean and beautiful!

*This can also be counted as community involvement for high school students in need of hours to graduate this June.



How to Not Save Barrie Central

By “Been down that road before”

The process to close Barrie Central is well underway, so before the ship has sailed, let’s learn from the past when Prince of Wales and King Edward were taken from our communities:

The Prohibitive to Repair label is based on inflated figures from private consultants who spent little time evaluating the school structure or actual costs. Our school board must allow new contractors in to give estimates on repairs before real numbers can be considered. King Edward, now Unity Christian H.S., has been renovated to meet the necessary standards.

The ARC process is flawed, from the selection of participants to the cruelty of pitting school communities against each other. Outcomes have always been predetermined.

The planners at the Board have been wrong many times. In fact, the very first ARC which recommended closing King Edward, after months of meetings, using all of the experts, statistics and planners, came up with this:  “Close King Edward and send all students by bus 4 km away to Trillium Woods, as projected enrollment will be approx. 200 pupils”. In its first year, Trillium Woods was at over 400 pupils, without having King Edward students transfer. By trying to solve the nightmare of urban sprawl, the Board is creating another one by destroying the heart of our downtown and historic neighbourhoods.

The school trustee system is skewed in favour of rural communities and smaller towns. Only 3 trustees represent Barrie. The other 7 represent smaller communities – also facing school closures. Why would they vote to save a school in a city where they don’t live or represent? They will free up much needed funds for their own regions if they close it. Those 7 “non-Barrie” trustees represent regions that rely heavily on busing – it’s what all the rural kids do. Therefore, the “Green” argument, the one in favour of kids walking, speaking out against the pitfalls of busing…not convincing.

The other “Green” argument about the wastefulness of tearing down a repairable building, the health hazards of new building materials and parking lots, idling engines, suburban sprawl…it falls on deaf ears.

Petitions don’t work; they get ignored.

The emotional argument, based on history, roots, legacies, and a sense of community…also ineffective.  King Edward and POW were both over 100 years old. Despite teary, heartfelt and powerful presentations to the ARCs and board, they voted to close those heritage schools.

So, what does work?”   Every concerned person calling and writing trustees daily with their opinions! Citizens from all over Simcoe County, not just Barrie, must be heard; their concerns documented.  Attendance at meetings is essential.  By not showing up, you don’t quite care enough.

Finally, the bottom line is cash. The school board doesn’t want to put up the money for the renovations needed to update Central, especially when they are looking at inflated figures and feeling pressure from new/suburban communities to build new schools.  Partnerships have to be made and strong ideas presented to an open minded ARC.



Central ARC presents options tonight

The Barrie Advance http://www.simcoe.com/community/barrieinnisfil/article/933158

BARRIE – The public has its last chance to bring ideas forward to save Barrie Central at tonight’s public meeting.

“This is the third public meeting and at the next one, scheduled for Feb. 22, the committee will present its findings,” said Stuart Bailey, the ARC member who will outline the options. “(Tonight) is the first real opportunity to see the options the Accommodation Review Committee has come up with and provide feedback.”

Over the past several months, the ARC discussed an array of information and came up with alternatives, which were whittled down to two last week.

One includes closing Barrie Central and sending its students to Barrie North – which would then take over Oakley Park elementary school across the street.

The other is to keep the Barrie Central community intact until at least 2016 so partnerships could be explored and strengthened. This would ultimately create a “super school” that would accommodate as many as 2,000 students who would come for specialized programs, such as arts, said Bailey.

“It would give us time to understand where the growth pressures in the city will be and time to understand the funding opportunities. It would prevent kids from going into portables,” he said.

On the agenda to speak is Dr. Werner Fabian, who has a practice on Toronto Street.

“My concern is the city gets more and more emptied,” he said. “They’re squeezing life out of the inner city and the emptier it gets, the worse it becomes to live. That’s what we’re battling here.”

Former CFB Borden heating supervisor Murray Welch, meanwhile, plans to ask questions during the open microphone session. He said the board came to a mistaken conclusion about Barrie Central and didn’t consult its maintenance staff for a best option to address the boilers.

The meeting takes place at the Fisher Auditorium, Barrie Central, at 7 p.m. tonight.

lwatt@simcoe.com



Upcoming ARC Meeting – Re: Barrie Central – Jan 25th.

Morning Folks;

I’ve attached  the Agenda for the upcoming ARC meeting at Central Collegiate High School. This is a very important meeting and if your able, please try to make it out.

The public will be able to speak & ask questions.  We should show our support.

We need to keep Barrie Central Collegiate in the Urban Growth Centre for all our kids. Schools can be saved! Perfect example as we know is Unity Christian High!

Please see Agenda below. Hope to see some of you out.

Cathy Colebatch & Bill Scott
ANA

ACCOMMODATION REVIEW COMMITTEE
ACCOMMODATION REVIEW AREA 2010:02
(BARRIE SECONDARY)

PUBLIC MEETING

AGENDA – JANUARY 25, 2011, 7:00 – 9:00 P.M.

BARRIE CENTRAL COLLEGIATE – FISHER AUDITORIUM
125 DUNLOP STREET, BARRIE ON, L4N 1A9

Presentation by ARC
1. Welcome and Introductions – Superintendent Stephen Blake, ARC Chairperson
2. Review of Work to Date – Kirsty Hunter, ARC Committee Member
3. Presentation of Accommodation Options – Stuart Bailey, ARC Committee
Member
Delegations
1. Alix Markman
2. Shelley Wright
3. Jeff Lehman
4. Lisa Markov
5. Dr. Werner Fabian
6. Rod Jackson
Public Questions / Comments
Public Questions and Comments (Open Floor)
Comment sheets are also available if you wish to submit written comments for
consideration by the ARC.
Closing Comments / Next Steps for ARC – Stephen Blake
Adjournment



Downtown Barrie Survey

The Downtown Barrie Business Association wants your feedback regarding our downtown. Please click on the link below to complete a short survey and to tell them what you think of, what we need and the way you see Downtown Barrie.

http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e39bbtn7gijdi9y7/start

Downtown Barrie Business Association
4 Simcoe St. E., Barrie ON L4M 1A1 Phone: (705)734-1414 Fax: (705)734-1227

info@downtownbarrie.ca



Barrie Examiner Article & Agenda for this Evening

Hi All

For those who don’t read the Examiner, from last nights Council Presentation.

http://thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2933534

We also got great coverage on ANews, well done to Mitchell and Bill Scott.

Hope to see you out at our ANA Meeting this evening, we have an additional Guest Speaker tonight from the Barrie Historical Association joining us. Mr Mark Fisher.

Agenda

Eighth Meeting, Allandale Neighbourhood Association
7:00 PM Tuesday, 18 January 2011
Agenda
1. Introductions: Bill Scott
Peter Bulthuis
2. Summary of presentation to Barrie City Council: Bill Scott
3. Upcoming Meeting Dates
Tuesday: Feb 22:
Tuesday March 29:
Tuesday April 26: Tour around old Allandale Rail Yard relics: Mitchell Wilson
4. Barrie Historical Association: Elaine Crossland
Description and invitation to join
5. Financial Statement 2010
6.Station Lands:
Outline of Correct Group Proposal
Issues/Concerns
Discussion in groups
Final Discussion and Summary

Thanks

Cathy & Bill